5 comments

  • bbcc90 7 minutes ago
    I'm a runner, and it's a bit sad that distance running is not longer purely about the runner.

    Based on the quote below, next thing we will see is a "constructors championship" similar to F1 for winning shoe constructor in the 'major' marathons :-(.

    " This dominance continued in 2024, with adidas athletes wearing Adizero models winning six out of 12 World Major Marathons – more than any other brand."

    and yes, of course i race in super shoes :-).

  • signorovitch 1 hour ago
    Feel a bit bad for Yomif Kejelcha who also broke the 2-hour mark, with this being his first competition marathon, but managed to neither break a record nor win.
    • darth_avocado 25 minutes ago
      While I know competitors want to always strive to be the best, as a completely normal human who struggles to complete a half marathon under two hours, I do not feel bad for the guy. He’s still one of the only two people to do it (outside of the very controlled run from Kipchoge). Not a feat to feel bad about at all.
    • parsimo2010 32 minutes ago
      While that seems like a bummer, as long as he doesn't quit he'll have many more chances to set the record himself.
    • MengerSponge 48 minutes ago
  • rhplus 36 minutes ago
    Is there also something unique about the shirt he wore? It has a unique embossed pattern on the chest. Is it just a nice design or does it also provide aerodynamic or heat wicking advantage?

    https://news.adidas.com/sabastian-sawe---london-marathon/a/0...

  • codezero 1 hour ago
    Those shoes are gonna sell like crazy now but it would be hilarious if they were to be found to have been giving an unfair advantage because of some mechanical property of the shoe.
    • icegreentea2 49 minutes ago
      Reviews say that they have very very good, but not record breaking energy return and shock absorption. But what they are is insanely light at sub 100g.

      https://runrepeat.com/adidas-adizero-adios-pro-evo-3

      • parsimo2010 28 minutes ago
        For a while it was all about getting the lightest shoes, because picking up heavy shoes slowed you down. Then the energy return (pebax foam, carbon plates/rods) became the main focus because the weight didn't matter as much when the shoe was literally springy. Surely this is now going to spark a race for the optimal balance between weight and energy return.
    • mbesto 36 minutes ago
      The Nike Zoom Vaporfly's already had set this precedent years ago: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/07/18/upshot/nike-v...

      The big improvement then was a carbon plate. Adidas (and others) followed suit. The subsequent improvements since then have been marginal but the margins are thin at that level. In this case the big advancement has been the weight of the shoe.

      EDIT: Also it's worth noting these shoes are $500 retail. Adidas will for sure get a boost in sales from this, but there's definitely competition in the $200~$300 marathon running shoe space that won't solely draw everyone to Adidas)

      • pclmulqdq 8 minutes ago
        Do these new Adidas shoes have anything major over the Vaporfly shoes? Maybe they are a bit lighter?

        I think the big story here may be the nutrition science to get these guys to absorb a lot of carbs during the run, more than the shoes.

    • loloquwowndueo 32 minutes ago
      Well if they’re sold in stores and next year everyone will have a pair, then it’s not going to be an unfair advantage, is it?
      • colechristensen 18 minutes ago
        There is a whole class of running shoes banned from various competitions.

        Essentially the argument given was too much advantage came from the shoes and they didn't want racing to be about shoe technology development.

    • sergiotapia 1 hour ago
      what else could it possibly be if not that?
      • robot_jesus 1 hour ago
        Well, the marathon record has been broken 53 times since the early 1900s. So, there are a lot of factors at play. Better training, better nutrition, better tactics, and, yes, better shoes.

        The advancements in shoes have made a measurable impact, but there are lots of optimizations being worked on.

      • jonplackett 35 minutes ago
        There’s info in one of the other threads about better carb intake too.

        But yeah at this point, “it’s the shoes, stupid” should defo be the main part of the conversation.

      • brudgers 54 minutes ago
        Performance enhancing drugs seem to help break records in sports from baseball to cycling.
    • DwnVoteHoneyPot 1 hour ago
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      • nearlyepic 38 minutes ago
        If I wanted to know what an LLM thought (I don't) I would go ask an LLM.
        • MattCruikshank 15 minutes ago
          One person sharing what an LLM thinks is probably better for the environment than each person asking...
          • nearlyepic 3 minutes ago
            I'll trade a little bit of damage to the environment in exchange for keeping meaningful communication between human beings alive and well.
      • RobotCaleb 58 minutes ago
        Did you ask AI what to wear today, too?
        • dyauspitr 51 minutes ago
          Is what the AI told him incorrect?
          • kibwen 37 minutes ago
            It sure would be great if the LLM in question would cite its sources so that we could verify whatever source it ingested this text from.
            • dyauspitr 23 minutes ago
              They always do. You’re either being intentionally daft or you haven’t used an LLM from within the last year and a half.
          • RobotCaleb 45 minutes ago
            I don't know, I didn't ask my AI
          • jonplackett 34 minutes ago
            This is not the point
      • kibibu 1 hour ago
        AI told us we should add glue to pizza
        • _carbyau_ 20 minutes ago
          Is that not what tomato paste and/or cheese is? Food glue? The other ingredients would fall off too easily otherwise.

          Or did the AI say we should be using PVA/cyanoacrylate/polyurethane glue or something?

        • ray_v 55 minutes ago
          In this economy, it may be sage advice.
        • dyauspitr 50 minutes ago
          You should stop using 3.5
        • readthenotes1 45 minutes ago
          I'm pretty sure that's an old trick based on some of the so-called cheese I've had on pizza
  • readthenotes1 42 minutes ago
    A purist might want the athletes to wear the same gear as Pheidippides
    • mayneack 17 minutes ago
      Why stop there. Why not deny them modern medicine or nutrition?
    • jonplackett 33 minutes ago
      A purist just wants it to be about the runner not the shoe.
      • _carbyau_ 16 minutes ago
        Purism is extremism about a thing. Pick a thing, be purely about that thing.

        I used to love F1 for the tech that would filter down to my car in ten years time, but that is not a thing anymore.

        I for one love the advances in technology in something as supposedly simple as a shoe. And maybe I'll get to use it on a hike in a few years.

        • teruakohatu 9 minutes ago
          > I for one love the advances in technology in something as supposedly simple as a shoe. And maybe I'll get to use it on a hike in a few years.

          These shoes are practically disposable. They trade longevity for noticeable gains in performance. Even the tier below don’t last very long. This is not tech that is going to filter down to your hiking boots.