5 comments

  • KumaBear 55 minutes ago
    Earning calls are when CEO’s are telling the truth about their products. Knowing Tesla’s history of making payments he won’t see a dime. I’m no lawyer but he should set up a publicity stunt like the man who seized Bank of America’s equipment in order to get paid in full the same day. (George and Ora Lee, successfully seized assets from a Bank of America branch after the bank wrongly foreclosed on their home)
    • jer0me 48 minutes ago
      I think you mean Warren and Maureen Nyerges: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/couple-almost-forecloses-on-ban...

      George and Ora Lee appear to be a couple who died hours apart in 2016 after being married for 58 years.

      • KumaBear 12 minutes ago
        Yea you are right. Google failed me once again.
      • CamperBob2 44 minutes ago
        "Yeah, so they won't be giving the Bank of America any more trouble, capisce?" -- Bank of America
        • sanex 38 minutes ago
          BoA having roots in the Bank of Italy makes this even funnier.
    • xnx 52 minutes ago
      > George and Ora Lee, successfully seized assets from a Bank of America branch after the bank wrongly foreclosed on their home

      This is the type of person that deserves to have a statue in public

  • the__alchemist 10 minutes ago
    The "Full" in "Full Self Driving" was one of the giveaways. It's like packaged food labeled with "Real" ("Real cheese" etc)
  • nubinetwork 44 minutes ago
    Be smart and take a free battery.
  • asdG17l 51 minutes ago
    But remember folks that Musk wants the best for humanity, is a humanist, wants to help all people and the future will be so awesome that no one will have to work and everyone will live in a penthouse.

    His X says so daily, so it must be true.

  • charcircuit 38 minutes ago
    From what I've seen on YouTube the cars do drive themselves. This seems more like the type of thing with AI where people change the goal posts of what AI means. Just because a car did not slow down in a school zone, that doesn't mean that the car wasn't driving itself.
    • AlotOfReading 26 minutes ago
      This is a common misconception. People tend to think driving is controlling the steering and pedals, so if FSD does those things it must be driving.

      It's not. Driving is whatever has ultimate responsibility for the vehicle and its occupants. If a cop pulls you over while FSD is enabled, it's not Tesla who's paying the ticket. If FSD has an issue, you're the driver who has to respond.

      Think of FSD as a very nice cruise control. You're still driving, even if you aren't touching the wheel.

    • loloquwowndueo 36 minutes ago
      By that logic it’s ok if the car slams itself against a concrete wall - just because it failed to stop in time doesn’t mean it wasn’t driving itself.

      Self driving cars are supposed to obey the same rules as human drivers.

      • RajT88 34 minutes ago
        Tesla FSD is vulnerable to RoadRunner and Wile E. Coyote style tricks.
    • throw7 4 minutes ago
      When full liability is put on the manufacturer, then we can talk about "cars driving themselves".
    • UltraSane 9 minutes ago
      Tesla FSD won't be level 5 until Tesla has liability for any crashes it causes the way Waymo does.
    • dawnerd 32 minutes ago
      Those YouTubers are all there to make Tesla look good. It’s a grift. The ones that are honest and show the bad side get kicked out of the Tesla club fast and dogpiled on.

      Also a school zone is one of the most basic things the car should be able to handle. If it can’t do that, it’s not ready for public use.

    • frakkingcylons 21 minutes ago
      See, that's really the best argument for this. It can drive itself the same way I can fly an Airbus A321. You can't sue me because I didn't land the plane "intact".
    • kalleboo 33 minutes ago
      Elon Musks claims included (exact quotes, these posts are still on X):

      Jan 10, 2016: In ~2 years, summon should work anywhere connected by land & not blocked by borders, eg you're in LA and the car is in NY

      Jul 16, 2019: If we make all cars with FSD package self-driving, as planned, any such Tesla should be worth $100k to $200k, as utility increases from ~12 hours/week to ~60 hours/week

      These aren't moving goalposts by antis, this are the expectations set by Elon Musk himself when advertising his products.