How far behind is each major Chromium browser?

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79 points | by skaul 1 hour ago

11 comments

  • butz 1 hour ago
    I would like to see all "desktop" applications that use Electron listed and how big of a Chromium drift is there, especially how many applications are shipping runtimes with unfixed vulnerabilities.
    • waitwhatwhoa 5 minutes ago
      We did a study of this a few years ago[1] and the code for the instrumentation is available on github[2], the data is dated but you can see a cross section of popular apps and how far behind they were lagging over a 3 year period on page 11 of the pdf. Re: child comment, our main concern in this research was patched vulnerabilities persisting in electron apps and how damaging that could be. Details in the paper :)

      1. https://www.usenix.org/system/files/usenixsecurity24-ali.pdf 2. https://github.com/masood/inspectron

    • captn3m0 57 minutes ago
      I've been working on this over the years. WIP is here: https://github.com/captn3m0/electron-survey, and it doesn't look good.

      I keep getting distracted by side-quests. The last one was building an Electron Zoo, and the current one is doing accurate SBOMs for each electron version.

    • nicoburns 1 hour ago
      I imagine that looks pretty bad. On the other hand, Electron apps often aren't running untrusted code, which makes it quite a bit harder to exploit.
      • josefx 26 minutes ago
        Didn't some get exploited early on because electron made it trivial to load third party websites without any kind of XSS protection?
    • panzi 29 minutes ago
      Just wanted to write the same comment!
  • dataflow 1 hour ago
    > Why does Chromium version lag matter?

    > users are exposed to known, already-patched security vulnerabilities

    Then why only focus on major versions? Don't minor versions/revisions have security fixes?

    • xeeeeeeeeeeenu 16 minutes ago
      Yes and also stable isn't the only maintained branch of Chromium, there's also extended stable (currently 146.x). LTS exists too (144.x), but I believe it's meant only for ChromeOS.
  • quantumleaper 1 hour ago
    Cool idea, but without longer-term tracking of how long each browser lags for each Chromium release, it's hard to draw any meaningful conclusions. It's also clear that in the case of major vulnerabilities, vendors would fast-track adoption of the patch.

    I would definitely include the fact that "major" versions of Chromium are released every 2 weeks. For instance, Vivaldi is on version 146.0.7680.218 that released this Tuesday [1], only 5 days ago.

    [1] https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/f97d14f8a0a...

  • pimlottc 50 minutes ago
    Please don’t use green/red schemes, it’s the most common form of colorblindness and it’s especially bad with such pale shades.
    • shooly 1 minute ago
      Red/green is the most common way to show bad/good, error/success, etc.

      Using any other color scheme would just confuse everyone instead of only colorblind people... how would that be any better?

    • xandrius 5 minutes ago
      It has text supporting the color, so it's fine.
  • Retr0id 7 minutes ago
    Is "uptodown" really the canonical download page for Comet?

    A point-in-time view is interesting but it's less useful than a graph over time.

  • UberFly 1 hour ago
    This is somewhat useful, but I know for instance that Vivaldi is often one version behind for the sake of stability, but also will also release incremental security updates in the period before major version updates.
  • mm263 1 hour ago
    Please add Helium
    • dotcoma 2 minutes ago
      Helium rocks!
    • wswin 39 minutes ago
      and Ungoogled Chromium
    • Yehoshaphat 45 minutes ago
      I second this motion.
  • koolala 36 minutes ago
    Could add the Meta Quest browser
  • jjmarr 1 hour ago
    Shouldn't it also show the version number of the browser the user is currently on?
    • koolala 35 minutes ago
      Which user?
      • catlikesshrimp 18 minutes ago
        The one visiting the website (tfa website)
        • koolala 5 minutes ago
          Why? What does tfa mean? I'm visiting it on Firefox.
  • Fokamul 24 minutes ago
    This website, for me, it's named "List of all browsers I will never use".

    Yet another reminder, lawmakers US/EU/Anywhere else, should force all browsers to actively block fingerprinting.

  • crazysim 1 hour ago
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