Project Gutenberg – keeps getting better

(gutenberg.org)

114 points | by JSeiko 50 minutes ago

11 comments

  • throw0101c 24 minutes ago
    While PG has probably gotten a lot of use and growth with the growth/maintreaming of the Internet since the 1990s, (TIL) it started back in 1971:

    > Michael S. Hart began Project Gutenberg in 1971 with the digitization of the United States Declaration of Independence.[5] Hart, a student at the University of Illinois, obtained access to a Xerox Sigma V mainframe computer in the university's Materials Research Lab. […] This computer was one of the 15 nodes on ARPANET, the computer network that would become the Internet. Hart believed one day the general public would be able to access computers and decided to make works of literature available in electronic form for free. […]

    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Gutenberg

  • JSeiko 50 minutes ago
    Hi! I'm one of the programmers at Gutenberg. We've been improving the site a lot over the past few months (and more is coming!). If you haven't visited the page recently, it's worth checking out again: https://www.gutenberg.org/
    • smallnix 1 minute ago
      There's a minor bug with chrome in android where the menu will not close when you tap outside the menu or on the menu link/button
    • shuvrojit 3 minutes ago
      Great Work. Thank you. I'm also a programmer. If you are ever short on help, let me know. I would love to contribute.
    • excitednumber 6 minutes ago
      Thank you for being one of the best places on the internet
    • ExtremisAndy 9 minutes ago
      Oh, my! This does look nice. Thank you for your hard work!
      • JSeiko 5 minutes ago
        Thanks! We're currently working on a design update of the page of any specific book. Should be online soon (next 1-2 weeks or so)
    • Falimonda 38 minutes ago
      The book list elements on front page render as both horizontally and vertically scrollable divs on mobile - seems like an opportunity for improvement.

      Keep up the good work!

      • JSeiko 33 minutes ago
        good feedback thanks! Doing an iteration on the homepage design is actually pretty high on the priority list. will keep your feedback in mind!
    • samcollins 35 minutes ago
      Very cool! Do you have a recommended way for an agent to see an index of the books and epub links?

      (I can’t quite tell if that’s an egregious abuse of the site or you’re perfectly fine to share without human eye balls hitting your www?)

      • jzs 26 minutes ago
        Now i'm not associated with gutenberg in any form, but they do have a page for offline consumption:

        https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/offline_catalogs.html

        Perhaps you can find the information you are looking for there.

        However if you plan on scraping or otherwise hitting them with a ton of traffic, consider at least to donate a good amount for the traffic you cause them. It ain't free after all.

        • JSeiko 23 minutes ago
          Donations are always appreciated ;)
      • kay_o 31 minutes ago
        Check out https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/offline_catalogs.html

        Don't hit the site with agent. The section furtherst bottom machine readable.

      • JSeiko 30 minutes ago
        not yet, but that's not a bad idea imo. Dealing with Ai crawler traffic is definitely a challenge if that's what you were referring to.
      • ancientcatz 27 minutes ago
        OPDS?
      • e0d075b569cd 31 minutes ago
        brother ... are we really THAT stupid now?
    • xrd 16 minutes ago
      Thank you for your work. This site is an international treasure.
  • JKCalhoun 3 minutes ago
    Project Gutenberg had (has?) a tendency toward plaintext that always put me off. (And it has been over a decade I'm sure since I explored the site—so I am no doubt now misinformed.)

    I like a styled formatted book—would prefer PDFs. (I know, not a popular format apparently.)

    I like the idea of Project Gutenberg but guess I found book scans on archive.org my preference.

    My go-to example is Lewis Carroll's "Through the Looking Glass" with the fantastic art of John Tenniel and Carroll's sometimes creative formatting of the prose…

    I see they (Project Gutenberg) have ePub now, which can be good if well done.

    (If not well done it can be a kind of mess. Re-flowable "HTML", paginated… Anyone ever try to print a long web page and did you enjoy the result? Perhaps that is as much on the ePub reader though.)

    • graemep 1 minute ago
      I have got quite a few books over the years from Gutenberg, and the epubs have been fine 0 even of illustrated ones.
    • RattlesnakeJake 1 minute ago
      Check out Standard eBooks. They take the text from Gutenberg and add a level of polish to the ePubs.
  • Someone1234 16 minutes ago
    I'm surprised no eBook Reader vendor has no Project Gutenberg "Store." Where you can just browse Gutenberg, find a book, and just grab it down to the reader. Instead, they either are actively hostile (Kindle), or require the use of Calibre (which itself is good, it is just the friction).
    • horsawlarway 7 minutes ago
      I've used https://standardebooks.org/ to pull nicely formatted Project Gutenberg books on any e-reader that supports a browser (in my case, Boox).

      Technically, I can also just directly pull the epub from Project Gutenberg, but sometimes the formatting leaves a lot to be desired.

      Once you get an e-reader that runs a semi-capable OS (ex - stock android, even an older version), it's hard to go back to something like a kindle.

      • JSeiko 1 minute ago
        standardebooks.org is great!
    • GaryBluto 11 minutes ago
      Most of them offer their own paid storefronts and have a perverse incentive not to offer a large area full of free books.
      • JSeiko 3 minutes ago
        probably true. Maybe an true open-source eReader should exist.
    • JSeiko 14 minutes ago
      I've heard that the newest Kobo e-readers have a browser that you could use to go to gutenberg.org and directly download files.

      but yes, generally I agree with your point. Library of 75k books seems pretty valuable to have direct access to.

  • RattlesnakeJake 2 minutes ago
    As a Kindle user, I still miss the old version of the site. The new one looks great on normal desktop, but the old one was simple enough to load and directly download books on the device's built-in browser.
  • aronhegedus 8 minutes ago
    Recently downloaded Moby Dick from here:) very easy to use
  • mowmiatlas 19 minutes ago
    Made an app that allows reading PG books as audiobooks on iPhone https://loudreader.io/
    • JSeiko 18 minutes ago
      that's cool!
  • seizethecheese 25 minutes ago
    A big pet peeve of mine with Project Gutenberg was the lack of mobile styling. Looks like it’s been fixed! Awesome.
    • JSeiko 23 minutes ago
      good to hear - that was a lot of work!
  • taubek 45 minutes ago
    Thank you for reminding me about this project. Didn’t visit it in a long time.
  • solarity_studio 23 minutes ago
    Awesome
  • brcmthrowaway 11 minutes ago
    I can't read anymore due to fear of not being productive with AI