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  • yladiz 2 hours ago
  • uijl 1 hour ago
    Interesting to see that they are able to identify the specific satellite. I wonder if we can do something now that we know the source.

    Working on construction projects on the Romanian coastline (just South of Ukraine) and on the Polish continental waters (just West of Kaliningrad) we experienced jamming on a daily basis.

    • Schlagbohrer 32 minutes ago
      That jamming near Kaliningrad must surely be impacting the Russian residents as well, right? Unless it is very carefully aimed which seems unlikely since it is also trying to cover a very large volume.
      • rcxdude 0 minutes ago
        Jamming in general will affect everything using those frequencies (and potentially more besides) in a given area, so if you're using it you're weighing up the effects it'll have on your stuff as well.
      • lazide 3 minutes ago
        1) with the exception of probably a few pensioners (who also depend on gov’t funding), everyone in the area is dependent on the military. It’s a giant military base in the middle of nowhere.

        2) anyone not military (and hence in on it), is a pensioner or the like and won’t give a shit about GPS.

        This is not a thriving urban metropolis or tourist location.

      • q3k 11 minutes ago
        Kaliningrad is one big military base.
    • colechristensen 1 hour ago
      >I wonder if we can do something now that we know the source.

      Russia signed the 1967 Outer Space Treaty (OST) in 1967, this may be a treaty violation of this or other treaties, something like that or retaliation regarding it may be possible.

      You can hack the satellite, or use other electronic warfare options to jam or interfere with it's operations.

      You can shoot it down with a missile.

      The X-37B is in space right now and interfering with space assets is a pretty obvious possibility for why it exists at all, but it's secret so nobody says these things.

      • JoachimS 29 minutes ago
        So Russia may be in violation of a treaty, treaties. I'm shocked.
      • nutjob2 1 hour ago
        > You can shoot it down with a missile.

        Obviously a bad idea, but frying it with some sort of high powered electromagnetic pulse would seem the smartest option with plausible deniability.

        I wonder if the US already has such weapons in orbit.

      • whizzter 1 hour ago
        If you start shooting down stuff in orbit, it'll invite retaliation, but even without retaliation there's a huge risk of a Kessler syndrome (especially with all the stuff that SpaceX has put into orbit in recent years).
        • LiamPowell 14 minutes ago
          > especially with all the stuff that SpaceX has put into orbit in recent years

          I've heard this repeated a lot but I've never seen anyone do the maths. StarLink satellites are all in very low orbits, so intuitively it seems like most debris from a collision would just end up deorbiting.

        • db48x 1 hour ago
          No, Kessler syndrome is pretty unlikely in this case. All of the guilty satellites are in Molniya orbits. Debris from destroying them would not greatly effect geosynchronous orbit or the low earth orbits used by Starlink.
        • Aerroon 1 hour ago
          I've thought about this before - do you actually need to "shoot it down" (make it explode)? What if you just nudge it a little and either make it spin or change its orbit? If your missile can reach the satellite then these seem like things that should be possible, no?
          • Cthulhu_ 38 minutes ago
            Depends, if you nudge it only a little, its own onboard stabilizers / thrusters should be able to correct it. It'd have to be more than its own systems can correct for.
            • speed_spread 19 minutes ago
              Nudge it long enough to deplete it's fuel reserves? Or just wrap the emitting antenna in tin foil...
  • dwa3592 9 minutes ago
    Hmm - the timing is uncanny that only 2 days ago I started building a dead reckoning system.
  • NKosmatos 2 hours ago
    TLDR (conclusion from the paper): "By a combination of these techniques the satellite Cosmos 2546 (NORAD ID 45608) was identified with high confidence as one source of the interference. Further analysis pointed to the Russian Edinaya Kosmicheskaya Sistema, an early warning constellation to which Cosmos 2546 belongs, as collectively responsible for the wide-area transient interference causing GNSS degradation across Europe since 2019."
    • jeroenhd 2 hours ago
      Additionally:

      > Note that Cosmos 2546 was launched in May 2020 and so cannot be responsible for the interference events that occurred in 2019. Moreover, Cosmos 2546 was not over Europe during some interference events after May 2020. But during all events on the 75 days shown in Table 1 there was at least one EKS satellite above a 35∘ elevation angle with respect to every reference station that observed the interference. Thus, it is highly probable that the EKS constellation is collectively responsible for the wide-area transient GNSS interference events noted since 2019.

  • Maverick_G 1 hour ago
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  • mattlondon 1 hour ago
    tl;dr - it was Russian satellites
    • imp0cat 1 hour ago
      How unsuprising.
    • Cthulhu_ 37 minutes ago
      This tl;dr is actually in the tl;dr on the linked page. We're doing tl;drs for tl;drs now?
      • Schlagbohrer 30 minutes ago
        In the future abstracts will be called Tilldars and no one will remember it came originally from trying to pronounce "tldr"
    • streatix 1 hour ago
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