Digital Printing of Arabic: explaining the problem

(digitalorientalist.com)

32 points | by a_t48 3 days ago

3 comments

  • harshreality 24 minutes ago
    (2017)

    How much of this is still a problem with modern software/font stacks and harfbuzz?

  • abdullahkhalids 1 hour ago
    This problem is not limited to Arabic. Variants of the arabic alphabet are used by Persian (including Iranian and Dari dialects), Mazanderani, Qashqai, Luri, Gilaki, Kurdish (excluding Kurds in Turkey), Talysh, Azerbaijani (in Iran), Pamir languages, Pashto, Urdu, Balochi, Sindhi (in Pakistan), Punjabi (in Pakistan), Uzbek (in Afghanistan), Turkmen (in Afghanistan), Saraiki, Hindko, Brahui, languages spoken in Kashmir.

    Whole languages are dying out because people are unable to express them properly on computers. Even popular software that dominate these speakers does not care to improve their experience. For example, Urdu has traditionally been written in the Nastaliq form [1], but is usually is rendered everywhere in the Naskh form [2]. There is no way to change this, for example, in Android without basically rooting it and changing the system fonts.

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nastaliq

    [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naskh_(script)

    • mohamedkoubaa 1 hour ago
      I don't know why people look down their noses at Arabizi
      • abdullahkhalids 45 minutes ago
        Because people don't want to abandon hundreds or thousands of years of culture for a completely solvable problem.
      • pseingatl 1 hour ago
        For a while, Arabizi was wildly popular and universally used on feature phones. When mobiles became smarter, it was used less. Japanese has romaji and Mandarin has pinyin. Arabic's Arabizi would increase literacy rates and solve all these digital problems.
        • cyphar 20 minutes ago
          The vast majority of Japanese and Mandarin speakers are also not in favour of replacing their current writing systems (which give them a link to thousands of years of their own history) in favour of simplified systems. I suspect it is the same for Arabic speakers.
  • pseingatl 1 hour ago
    For a while, Arabizi was wildly popular and universally used on feature phones. When mobiles became smarter, it was used less. Japanese has romaji and Mandarin has pinyin. Arabic's Arabizi would increase literacy rates and solve all these digital problems.