Breaking the Bird Barrier: Scientist Decodes Zebra Finch Language

(freepressjournal.in)

43 points | by yyyk 3 days ago

3 comments

  • ileonichwiesz 2 hours ago
    Very interesting topic, but a strange choice of source. I'd recommend these instead:

    Coller foundation press release: https://www.jeremycollerfoundation.org/news-and-insights/pre...

    The actual publication in Science: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.ads8482

    • MathMonkeyMan 2 hours ago
      It does have the title going for it.
      • technothrasher 59 minutes ago
        The title doesn't match the paper though. People had already decoded the bird calls. What the paper was giving evidence to was that the birds themselves are cognitively decoding the calls.
        • t-writescode 45 minutes ago
          I’m glad we’re doing this research. It makes me wonder how much time and potential we’ve wasted over the years actively assuming non-human animals were just rote automatons.

          It seems like a meaningful amount of science has been spent on systematically dismantling pre-existing prejudice over the last hundreds of years (and thousands in some cases and cultures).

            All humans are human.
            Babies can feel pain.
            Plants feel.
            Animals think.
          
          Just … So much wasted time on what should have always been seen as true.

          I get that some cultures already thought some of these things, but many of these were sadly not prevailing.

          • adjejmxbdjdn 35 minutes ago
            I don’t believe there’s any evidence behind plant’s feeling or thinking.

            Other than that you’re right.

            • why_at 2 minutes ago
              Yeah I think there's a lot of science news about how plants are capable of more than the average person thinks, but people tend to conflate that with some kind of conscious experience.
    • kiproping 2 hours ago
      Thank you, I was also looking for a better source and a link to the paper. I thought the paper was this older one https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-06394-9 from 2018.
  • AndrewKemendo 0 minutes ago
    Another win for machine learning:

    >She then applied machine learning to analyse how information was encoded in the calls before testing her findings through behavioural experiments.