6 comments

  • shipman05 4 minutes ago
    I'm dismayed by the current political discourse on this topic. Seems like the two camps are 1) let mega corps build data centers with impunity or 2) use NIMBY tactics to oppose them in all cases.

    I want to see a pro-growth approach that makes the mega corps assume the costs of their negative externalities. I want to see an increased build out of renewable and nuclear energy sources. I want to see environmental protections in place to limit impacts on aquifers and other water sources.

    Democracies don't handle nuance well.

  • lordnacho 2 minutes ago
    I presume running an electric shower includes heating up the water? Otherwise I don't understand how it could be so energy intensive. The energy is the mgh of the water lifted, plus the heat you put into it. Heat tends to be by far bigger in that calculation unless I've missed something.
  • DenisM 29 minutes ago
    Select quote:

    * 5% of electricity in the United States is used to power data centers. For AI-focused ones specifically, it’s probably around 2%.*

    I think it’s massive.

    • gruez 0 minutes ago
      >I think it’s massive.

      So what about the other 3%? That's not "massive"? Or it gets a pass because it's not AI? The whole debate over datacenter resource consumption feels like a rorschach test. Either you think the technology is transformative and therefore the resource consumption is justified, or you think it's slop and therefore any resource consumption can't be justified.

  • lopis 26 minutes ago
    The author claims it's surprising that AI uses less electricity than the rest of data centers. Why?? Data centers do a million different things other than AI
    • Aurornis 15 minutes ago
      It's surprising because that's all anyone hears about right now.

      Many are surprised to learn that data centers use much less water than golf courses or pools. We hear about it so much in the news it sounds like it's the overwhelming largest consumption problem around.

      • raychis 1 minute ago
        I wonder if we made tech billionaires choose between keeping their golf courses or building more AI data centres what they would go for.
      • axus 9 minutes ago
        If they use so little water and power, why aren't they being built in the empty office buildings? Seems like commercial real estate was made for ... commercial activity.
        • rick_dalton 4 minutes ago
          This makes no sense? How is one even correlated with the other? Data centers obviously have much different requirements than office buildings for people. On a very small scale this works but not on a larger scale.
    • StrauXX 22 minutes ago
      AI hardware is much, much more powerhungry than traditional processors though. I can understand their reasoning.
      • lopis 17 minutes ago
        Sure, but it's still surprising that 1/3 of all data centers in the whole world are dedicated to that one use.
  • xnx 15 minutes ago
    Our World in Data is great, but this article would've been improved if it offered a chart that offered a comparison to it's leading "1.5% of global electricity number".

    For example: 7% to 10% of all global electricity is consumed by air conditioning. It's not hard to think of relatively small interventions that could save 1.5% of global energy use annually.

  • ch4s3 47 minutes ago
    I think its easy to forget how much energy is required to boil a liter of water, and these charts are a great reminder of the mundane things like that which escape our attention.