Aristotle quotes on virtue, knowledge, and happiness

(campion.edu.au)

56 points | by teleforce 1 hour ago

12 comments

  • geye1234 1 hour ago
    The level of precision a subject can reach is peculiar to that subject, but it doesn't follow that nothing can be accurately predicated of it:

    "It is characteristic of such knowledge [ethics] that it should be deficient in “exactness,” in precision of statement, and closeness of logical concatenation. We must not look for a mathematics of conduct. The subject-matter of Human Conduct is not governed by necessary and uniform laws. But this does not mean that it is subject to no laws."

    "[T]he man of education will seek exactness so far in each subject as the nature of the thing admits, it being plainly much the same absurdity to put up with a mathematician who tries to persuade instead of proving, and to demand strict demonstrative reasoning of a Rhetorician."

    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8438/8438-h/8438-h.htm

  • great_wubwub 21 minutes ago
    “We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.”

    Aristotle never said this. It's Will Durant.

    https://medium.com/the-mission/my-favourite-quote-of-all-tim...

    https://old.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy/comments/s2n3s/source...

    This invalidates the post for me, it takes it from academic research to fanboy posting.

  • al_be_back 28 minutes ago
    > 2. "Happiness depends upon ourselves."

    he's quiet possibly referring to happiness as a relationship (with family, friends, colleagues, citizens etc) rather than just by oneself / isolation / individual. he famously said "man by nature is a political animal" (or social if you prefer)

    • sdellis 16 minutes ago
      Social and political are very different, unless you are overly concerned with accumulating power within your social relationships.
      • skinfaxi 4 minutes ago
        I would submit that all social relationships have power dynamics. Politics is about allocation of resources more than power accumulation. You may be conflating the two because more power allows you to allocate resources with less intereference.
  • BusterBladeZX 11 minutes ago
  • technics256 1 hour ago
    The first quote is not even a quote from Aristotle but from Will Durant’s book, The Story of Philosophy (1926)
  • deepfriedbits 9 minutes ago
    > "Friendship is a single soul dwelling in two bodies."

    What a cool way to convey the benefits of having strong friendships.

  • pinnate 34 minutes ago
    Much of this is either simply not Aristotle, or a paraphrase from one of his works incorrectly attributed to another. My slop meter is pinging.

    Edit:

    Between the misattributions, fabricated quotes, listicle format, thin explanatory paragraphs, and use of “delve” (posted Nov 2024 - during ChatGPT’s Delve Era), this is a pretty embarrassing thing for a Liberal Arts college to post.

  • notorandit 1 hour ago
    If you ever wondered, those are among the things that made that single person standing out of the crowd od Humanity for more than two thousands years.<3
  • ignoramous 38 minutes ago

      The aim of the wise is not to secure pleasure, but to avoid pain.
    
    Reminds me of Charlie Munger's Inversion principle that he borrowed from German mathematician Carl Gustav Jacob Jacobi's man muss immer umkehren. https://fs.blog/inversion/

      We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
    
    As counter points, read Cedirc Chin's Problems with deliberate practice, https://commoncog.com/the-problems-with-deliberate-practice/ and Sensemaking as the heart of expertise, https://commoncog.com/sensemaking-heart-of-expertise/

      It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    
    This Amjad Masad comment lives rent-free in my head: "Tolerating some amount of cognitive dissonance is one of the best things that I was able to develop in myself ... people don't update their beliefs when new evidence comes to light ... The drive to avoid cognitive dissonance shackles you to your existing beliefs (see confirmation bias)". https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11799477 (2016).

    cf. Why people that are often right change their minds often, https://fs.blog/some-advice-from-jeff-bezos/

  • andsoitis 1 hour ago
    “It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.”
    • bwfan123 16 minutes ago
      > entertain a thought without accepting it

      Entertaining an idea is understanding it. And, there is some research to show that understanding an idea is believing it. Hence, understanding an idea and not believing it is very effortful.

      [1] https://bear.warrington.ufl.edu/brenner/mar7588/Papers/gilbe...

    • pmdulaney 1 hour ago
      From Aristotle?

      Along the same lines: "Education is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your temper or your self-confidence." -- Robert Frost

      • john_strinlai 1 hour ago
        >From Aristotle?

        apparently not, actually:

        "The earliest that this quotation appears in print is in Religion and the Pursuit of Truth (1959) by Lowell Bennion."

        or

        "First attributed to Aristotle in Lowell L. Bennion, Religion and the Pursuit of Truth (1959). Unfound as such.

        Sometimes thought (though I feel it's a bit of a stretch) a misinterpretation of Nicomachean Ethics 1.3.4 (1094b): "For it is the mark of an educated person to search for the same kind of clarity in each topic to the extent that the nature of the matter accepts it.""

      • notorandit 1 hour ago
        Maybe, yes "maybe" Robert got inspiration from a guy who lived two thousands years earlier.
  • potentdream 1 hour ago
    Nice!
  • whjte 54 minutes ago
    it do be like that