Composable Tests

(newsletter.kentbeck.com)

23 points | by vinipolicena 1 hour ago

4 comments

  • mrkeen 11 minutes ago
    > If a test runs by first setting up its own test fixture, creating from scratch all the data it will be using as input, then that test is guaranteed to be isolated. It doesn’t matter what order you run the tests, the results will be exactly the same.

    Completely backward. This definition requires isolation, rather than granting it.

    In reality, you (or your test framework) provides the isolation by hobbling along, executing only one test at a time.

  • pfdietz 14 minutes ago
    I had a test suite with thousands of tests. One way of running it was to take all the passing tests, and then run them repeatedly in random order.

    This found new bugs involving unintended persistent state.

  • grim_io 40 minutes ago
    I'm done listening to smart people proposing fixes for my dumb code.

    Either I'm not smart or disciplined enough to make it work, or my colleagues are not. Mostly both.

    • OakNinja 20 minutes ago
      Kent Beck is smart because he proposes fixes that work in real life, as in environments with dumb code and undisciplined people.

      I can very much recommend his latest book ”Tidy first?”. It’s extremely short and concise, and is perfect for a very light book club within any tech team.

      • RHSeeger 13 minutes ago
        I agree, both with your analysis of him and your review of "Tidy first?". We read and discussed it at work, and I enjoyed it a lot.
        • skydhash 5 minutes ago
          I enjoyed the last (and theoretical) part of "Tidy first?" as I was already doing the recommended practices in the first two. But yes, very pragmatic advice and easy to apply to get your own corner of peace in a somewhat chaotic codebase.

          One term I can use is "defensive programming" (not sure if the term has been used before). People are going to do awful stuff with their code, it's up to you to draw boundary of correctness to stop it from spilling on the part that you're responsible for. It should be automated (with tests and static analysis) as well as documented. I think of those boundary as hazmat suits and I take extra care of maintaining their integrity.

    • troupo 25 minutes ago
      What he wrote is basically "don't repeat in test X what you already tested in test X-1".

      It's not as much composition as compounding, and can work quite well.

      Let's say something takes 20 steps, and you want to test all 20.

      Instead of this:

          test 1:
             do step 1, assert step 1
      
          test 2:
             do step 1, assert step 1
             do step 2, assert step 2
      
          test 3:
             do step 1, assert step 1
             do step 2, assert step 2
             do step 3, assert step 3
      
          ...
      
      you do this:

          test 1:
             do step 1, assert step 1
      
          test 2:
             do step 1
             do step 2, assert step 2
      
          test 3:
             do step 1
             do step 2
             do step 3, assert step 3
      
          ...
      
      This works well in certain situations, as it skips diplicated redundant testing. Requires some discipline so that tests don't drift away from each other.

      As most things, it depends on what those steps are. Perhaps you only need that one final (integration) test instead of 20 intermediate unit ones.

      • seanwilson 7 minutes ago
        What's the problem of only keeping test 3 if it depends on test 2 and 1 passing anyway?

        The article mentions not to do this because "Deleting test1 loses us another property from the Test Desiderata—tests should be specific. That’s the property of tests where, when one fails, you know exactly where the problem is." but you'll know what line it failed on. And some test runners let you break a test into steps, where groups of lines are given a description.

        Or put each step + assert in a helper function (e.g. `doStep1AndAssert()`), and each test only calls these helper functions?

        Nothing is perfect, but copy/pasting chunks between tests like this isn't great to maintain or read.

      • RHSeeger 10 minutes ago
        I wonder if it would work do design something that was able to say

            test 1: 
               do step 1, assert step 1
        
            test 2:
               requires: test 1
               do step 2, assert step 2
        
            test 3:
               requires: test 2
               do step 3, assert step 3
        
            test 4:
               requires: test 2
               do step 3, assert step 3
        
        If the assertion of each test doesn't change any state, that might make things easier to read. Though, given that I haven't spent much time pondering it, I expect it could have it's own problems.

        But it could also do things like skip test 3 if tests 2 or 1 failed - because it knows about the relationship.

  • keploy 9 minutes ago
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