A Kantian Critique of "Sorry" by Justin Bieber

(decodingvibes.com)

73 points | by altmanaltman 1 hour ago

7 comments

  • BubbleRings 56 minutes ago
    Funny. Take a simple pop song about apology and make an academic treatise on what a heartfelt apology looks like.

    On the other end of the spectrum would be to summarize it in the shortest form with the simplest words, instead of with many and multi-syllable words. How about this (not mine, I’ve heard this in addiction recovery rooms, where apologies and amends are often discussed):

    In the sentence “I’m sorry I did x, but you did y”, the word “but” means “disregard the above.”

    • Waterluvian 33 minutes ago
      I agree with the sentiment.

      But,

      Whenever I catch myself reaching for “but” I recognize it is because I need to feel heard. What I did was unacceptable. But I didn’t do it in a vacuum and I need my grievances to be recognized. My belief is that omitting the “but” phrase is an act of faith. You need to trust that the other party cares about your feelings and side of the issue, too. Accepting an apology is just as delicate an act as giving one.

      “I’m sorry I hit you with the blue shell.”

      “I appreciate you saying that. I know you were in last place and that must have felt awful. I don’t want that for you either.”

      • repeekad 4 minutes ago
        So, you don’t agree with the sentiment?.. /s
  • henrydark 30 minutes ago
    Song also proves Bieber is a dualist

    "cause I'm missing more than just your body"

    What else does she have that he misses?

    • andai 20 minutes ago
      Dank memes. She has dank memes on her phone.
  • cyanmagenta 1 hour ago
    Justin Bieber is a utilitarian rather than Kantian. From a UChicago economics view, he is behaving rationally.
  • shrubby 25 minutes ago
    After spending most of today circling around maxims I appreciate the application.

    Though I must state that the pic almost had me closing the tab before reading.

    Here's another venting out, somewhere near Categorical Imperative https://kohlbergs7.org/epm/

    • KPGv2 8 minutes ago
      > After spending most of today circling around Maxims

      a sentence i have't heard since middle school at the local corner store with my bros hesitant about buying a lad mag

  • aeve890 24 minutes ago
    >No AI was used to generate the text for this article

    Damn. Please never stop writing

    • andai 19 minutes ago
      The slop art gave me the wrong impression. I did enjoy the read even thinking it was AI though.
    • assumed_throwaw 5 minutes ago
      [dead]
  • hmokiguess 1 hour ago
    Great, now do Apologize by Timbaland from the lenses of Schopenhauer
    • jambalaya8 41 minutes ago
      I was going to say for "What Goes Around Comes Around" by Timberlake, or maybe "F--- it, I don't want you back" by Eamonn, myself. Schopenhauer though. Great minds.
      • jubilanti 1 minute ago
        Yeah yeah Schopenhauer, but Nietzsche's eternal recurrance is just sitting there!
    • ignoramous 1 hour ago
      > from the lenses of Schopenhauer

      Ha! Analysing (deconstructing?) poems was part of primary schooling in middle eastern traditions wherein Philosophy & Cosmology were considered to be the highest form of Knowledge (informed by Avicenna's ideas on pedagogy & education): https://www.researchgate.net/publication/399623059_Islamic_E...

    • xianshou 50 minutes ago
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