6 comments

  • Delphiza 1 minute ago
    I get the privacy concerns, and we are right to expect Microsoft to say that this is what their tool may be doing. However, I fear that one day we will look back and wonder why we didn't do more to sign and preserve human authenticity. Having a stamp saying "AI manipulated" should be a part of digital lineage tooling.
    • torginus 0 minutes ago
      Well if that's any reassurance, you can generate a meme picture using AI, then paste it into Paint to add some funny text. That way you can get the best of both worlds.
  • JoeBOFH 5 minutes ago
    I had this trigger the other day incorrectly and went and installed Paint.net. I pasted in a screenshot I took and just wanted to resize it. I got a banner saying it was made with AI and would be updated to reflect that.
  • ComputerGuru 33 minutes ago
    AI-generated text warning (I submitted - but did not author - the piece), but it seems MS Paint and MS Photos add both a visible (can be turned off) and invisible (cannot be disabled and happens silently in the background with no user notice) watermarks to photos that have been AI-manipulated, even when using a local model to perform the action. It's not clear if this applies to even things like using AI-enhanced background delete/remove, but the invisible watermark is embedded in both the image pixels and the image metadata, both containing a GUID that can be linked to the exact prompt that was used and the originating device/user (on Microsoft's end).

    Obvious next step is to explore if you can replace watermarker.dll with a (signed) no-op shim or MITM the API call to at least use your own (nil?) GUID that isn't linked to your device/account.

    In case it's not obvious, my bigger concern isn't "this image can be identified to have been generated with/by AI" so much as it is "digital yellow printer dots have been forced upon us, except they can identify and retrieve the exact user/device/time/place/document/etc", completely destroying any and all illusions of privacy left.

    • nemomarx 6 minutes ago
      I'd like to know more about the GUID part and how easy is it so deanonymize yeah.

      But if it's only on ai generation and not on all images it seems easy enough to work around that part? Still better than printers doing it no matter what you're printing.

    • stronglikedan 4 minutes ago
      > AI-generated text warning

      This seems incorrect to me. Are you basing that on the use of bullet points?

    • NuclearPM 13 minutes ago
      I don’t understand the warning.
      • phainopepla2 1 minute ago
        They're saying that the blogpost is at least partially AI-generated.
    • like_any_other 13 minutes ago
      [dead]
  • nemomarx 11 minutes ago
    Interesting. I really didn't think watermarks would end up going anywhere, but maybe with enough adoption we can have easy ai generated content flagging after all?
    • dotancohen 0 minutes ago
      Not every generative AI model will watermark. Especially not adversarial and disinformation models.
  • sixothree 8 minutes ago
    I think it would be nice if all cameras digitally signed pictures. You could prove the photo was real.
    • WalterGR 3 minutes ago
      What would prevent someone from applying the same algorithm on a computer to sign arbitrary images?
    • 615341652341 4 minutes ago
      The hard part is deciding how much post processing is acceptable with these images. Feels like a lot of phone cameras optimize images and curious how much of it is considered “AI”