Where Did All the Public Bathrooms Go?

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39 points | by herbertl 1 hour ago

20 comments

  • cube00 12 minutes ago
    Strange "For the Classroom" question.

    Men seeking same-sex encounters transformed the pissoir into something its planners never intended. Who ultimately determines the meaning of a public space: its designers, authorities, or the people who use it?

    The law determines that public space can't be used for any sexual activity.

    I'm not sure what constructive classroom discussion you can have when the example starts with the law being broken.

    • xhevahir 2 minutes ago
      They're probably talking about the sociological functions of the facility, not the set of legally permissible uses of it. (There's a pretty famous book on the subject, Tearoom Trade: Impersonal Sex In Public Places.)
    • smcg 2 minutes ago
      That didn't stop... a lot of people.
  • strbean 10 minutes ago
    I was in France recently and used a public restroom. It had an attendant, and a fee of €0.50. Charging for the restroom is unfortunate, but this setup is certainly better than eliminating public restrooms entirely.
  • izzydata 27 minutes ago
    I am going to start calling the reduction or removal of minor things that helped society "micro regressions".
  • readingnews 43 minutes ago
    This seems to be happening in public parks also. I visit two cities literally half way across the country from one another, and have visited them for decades. All of the public restrooms in the public city parks (which are quite popular with locals and tourists) are gone. First they closed them, then they tore down the buildings. Locals thought "oh, must be putting in new ones", but no, they were torn down and never replaced.
  • MrDrMcCoy 18 minutes ago
    I want to know where the public water fountains went. Those are arguably a safety feature.
  • kazinator 2 minutes ago
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  • beardyw 5 minutes ago
    Yes, where are you going to take a bath, in public.

    It's interesting that this subject is awash with euphemisms. At least pissoir is properly descriptive.

  • Simon_O_Rourke 17 minutes ago
    I think it stopped once public bathrooms became used for things other than taking a whizz
    • expedition32 12 minutes ago
      Yeah you have to actually hire people to clean them and patrol for homeless weirdos. Which is why in my country they cost money.

      I never really understood the economics of public restrooms in America. Who pays for them?

      • selectodude 7 minutes ago
        We thought it was mean to homeless people to make them pay for bathrooms and made it illegal to charge. Then once bathrooms because a massive cost center, we closed all the public restrooms and made it a sex offense to piss outside. So now instead of making homeless people pay $1 for a toilet, we throw them in jail at a cost of $100k/yr.

        Thank these folks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_to_End_Pay_Toilets_i... - the road to hell is paved with good intentions I suppose.

      • cnity 9 minutes ago
        The public pays for them via taxes.
      • mosura 8 minutes ago
        The problem with homeless is also what do you do with them when you find them?
      • addaon 9 minutes ago
        > Who pays for them?

        Americans. The same population as most of the beneficiaries.

      • alephnerd 5 minutes ago
        > I never really understood the economics of public restrooms in America. Who pays for them?

        Local sales, income, and/or property taxes.

        Municipalities, counties, state, and the federal government all have the power of taxation in the US.

  • jonshariat 32 minutes ago
    Something else I've noticed, garbage cans are disappearing.

    I had some trash in my car I needed to get rid of: McDonalds? None outside, Tacobell? none outside, CVS? none outside OR inside, The entire rest of that shopping center? nope.

    Luckily gas stations still have them but its sad to see these community service type things disappear.

    • hlynurd 1 minute ago
      You would think it's in the interest of whoever is responsible for keeping those areas clean to offer garbage cans.
  • testing22321 5 minutes ago
    Friends were just in Australia and were immensely impressed by not only the ubiquitous public bathrooms, but also how well maintained and clean they are.

    Tons of free to use BBQs too.

  • Daviey 35 minutes ago
    They all look like lovely "cottages".
    • zabzonk 20 minutes ago
      Hence one of the activities they are best known for - "cottaging".
  • polski-g 29 minutes ago
    • tomjakubowski 8 minutes ago
      Fascinating stuff. And what a logo.

      > Starting a national crusade to cast away coin-operated commodes, Gessel told newsmen, "You can have a fifty-dollar bill, but if you don't have a dime, that metal box is between you and relief."

      I'm sympathetic to this argument. Carrying around loose change with US-style billfold wallets has never been convenient, and back in the day you'd often find yourself without change for a bus fare or a pay phone or a and so on in a critical moment.

      Today, though, almost everyone carries either a contactless credit card or a phone with an NFC wallet. I would begrudgingly pay $0.25 for access to a clean public toilet if I could swipe one of those instead of having to carry change.

      LA Metro has these restroom facilities at their rail stations, which are free for a 10 minute visit but require an access code on your phone or a standalone entry pass. I've never used one, but heard great things. https://thronelabs.co/

  • baggy_trough 17 minutes ago
    They were lost due to the tender ministrations of the bottom quintile.
  • bethekidyouwant 12 minutes ago
    Just switch to porta-potties.
  • micromacrofoot 15 minutes ago
    > Notably, they were only intended for use by men.

    this complicates public bathrooms quite a bit, and ADA requirements do too... once you've got a place to sit and doors on rooms you've got the vagrancy and drug use problem

    though China does ok with the model of a big room with holes in the ground and almost no dividers or affordances at all (everyone brings their own toilet paper, old people bring their own chairs)... they have public workers to hose them out

  • ModernMech 28 minutes ago
    This is why anyone from Eastern PA knows Wawa is considered essential public infrastructure.
  • mring33621 34 minutes ago
    "Closed due to COVID-19"
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