Gemini-3.5-Transcribe

(blog.google)

64 points | by k9294 3 hours ago

9 comments

  • Crystalin 1 minute ago
    I've been testing it on Pixel 11 Pro and I mostly dislike it. It is convenient when you have something long to say without thinking about it first. But the main issue is when you want to say something precise with specific wording it might "simplify" it and break the meaning.

    Something like "I hesitated to check it, I should have verified" => "I should have verified" (The "I hesitated..." is removed but I said it because I wanted to let the person know that I thought about it earlier)

  • film42 41 minutes ago
    Curious if this suffers from the same hallucination problems as Chirp or not. For example, if you pass chirp some audio with noise or even no audio, it will barf text at you like "I don't know. I don't know. I don't know." until a request timeout fires after like 10 minutes. It's... really bad. For this reason, we've moved back to Whisper for timestamp accuracy and then Gemini Flash for transcription correction.
    • k9294 33 minutes ago
      I am using it all day as a main dictation model, and I can say it's the best model in terms of accuracy, latency, and formatting I have ever used.
  • gumby271 1 hour ago
    That's really impressive! It says it's available in GBoard on Android but I don't see it yet. I assume like most Google features it will be a rolling release over the course of several months, can't wait to try it some day.
    • bahmboo 1 hour ago
      It is confusing. As far as I can tell "rambler for Android" is a named subfeature of gboard and only on Pixel 10+ and newer Samsung phones. From a user standpoint it "just" seems like the transcription has gotten better - not an app you use or a feature that you enable.
  • hypfer 16 minutes ago
    Where does the compute happen?

    I suppose it's a cloud thing?

    • k9294 12 minutes ago
      Yep.
  • jeffbee 1 hour ago
    I am not sure if "Word Error Rate" captures what has always been wrong with transcription. My biggest complaint is that it inserts sentence breaks in random places, then fails to evaluate the result, even though it is obviously wrong. Then I have to go fix it which can be harder than having just typed it myself, due to the difficulty of positioning the Android cursor, the fact that it automatically capitalizes if you delete a capital letter, etc. And much of the time I fail to notice the errors until later.
    • verdverm 34 minutes ago
      have another model do a pass to clean it up, saw a demo of local STT where someone did this, can fix a lot of things, especially with gotchas for the STT model in a clean-transcript.md
      • coder543 14 minutes ago
        I haven't tried it, but this looked promising for that exact task: https://huggingface.co/superwhisper/s1-mini
      • jeffbee 17 minutes ago
        I think the model can even evaluate itself. If it looks afterward at an output like "do you. Want to get lunch?" in the absence of affirmative evidence that the user wanted it that way, it should be able to see that it goofed.
  • iAMkenough 28 minutes ago
    Hopefully YouTube automatic captions improve with this
  • Freedom2 1 hour ago
    I'd love to know how this handles proper subtitle formatting. I'm in the process of learning many languages, and being able to cross check my own understanding with film and video would be fantastic.
  • HappyPanacea 1 hour ago
    Does somebody knows what top locales list is sampled from? their own usage data? Also when they will use their AI to give better directions in Waze?
  • k9294 3 hours ago
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    • _zoltan_ 1 hour ago
      this is not a free advertising platform.
      • senordevnyc 7 minutes ago
        lol, it absolutely is, just not for all of us.
    • k9294 1 hour ago
      Sorry everyone, I got a little bit too excited about the release. It's quite a big deal for us.

      I started Ottex nine months ago with the idea that models will get to the point that they will overcome VC-funded startups, and I think it just happened. So yeah, I got a little bit overexcited...

    • ChrisClark 1 hour ago
      omg, some founders are so tone deaf