Waymo in Singapore

(waymo.com)

41 points | by ramanan 1 hour ago

5 comments

  • shell0x 33 minutes ago
    A basic commuter car costs over S180,000( US135,000) due to a compulsory 10-year quota license (COE/certificate of entitlement) that alone costs S$100,000+, plus registration taxes scaling up to 320% of the car's base value. Total running costs (tolls, parking, road tax) easily add S1,000–S2,000+ per month.

    Singapore is so small though and cabs are cheap and I never needed a car. I can see why Waymo will be very attractive.

    • vachina 31 minutes ago
      If you never needed a car in Singapore then why is the COE so expensive? COE price is determined from a bidding process.
      • shell0x 29 minutes ago
        I said I never needed a car there :) I can get anywhere by cab in like < 30 mins so I never saw the need to have one. However there are plenty of ultra rich people living there and also many driving luxury cars. It's also a status symbol there(Credit card/Condo/Car).
      • fhe 11 minutes ago
        despite the convenience of a well-run public transport system and uber-like services, the ease and freedom of owning your own transport is still hard to beat, and evidently worth the ~75k dollar COE. it removes the walk from bus/subway stations under the tropical/sun, humidity; and the wait (typically 5-10min) of waiting for your uber/taxi driver to showup and enduring the uber car smell (often heavily scented for some reason and triggers my allergic reaction) and someone else's music. and once you have children a car is almost a must.
      • shalmanese 6 minutes ago
        A lot of people get a car when they have kids as taking grab with a car seat can be unwieldy. Also, COE wasn’t always $100K, many people are still on legacy COE when it was $30-$50K
      • itemize123 4 minutes ago
        it's easy to want one
      • jimmydef 11 minutes ago
        The utility of a car in singapore is very different from other places. Yes, a car will get you faster from point A to point B in singapore when compared to public transport. But you can get a private hire car or a taxi which is just as fast and is probably much more convenient.

        For many people in Singapore, a car's real utility is to signal status. More often than not, this status gets you real-life benefits. Such as increased dating success.

        • fhe 10 minutes ago
          interestingly enough though, car ownership, and even having a driver's license is increasingly less common among the young.
          • jimmydef 5 minutes ago
            Yes, because when adjusted to car ownership costs, the young have a lower purchasing power when compared to the older generation at the same age back then.
  • rottencupcakes 48 minutes ago
    Singapore has the potential to be the first country to eliminate the private ownership of vehicles.
    • tristanj 38 minutes ago
      Singapore will not be the first. Albania banned private vehicle ownership for over 40 years until 1991.
    • evbogue 9 minutes ago
      Singapore would do better banning cars altogether.
  • orsenthil 31 minutes ago
    Singapore is a controlled economy, and has a large workforce for Taxi Drivers and part-time drivers through Grab. I am not sure how the entrenchment of robotaxis like Waymo (and future tesla) is going to play with the general population. My guess, they will co-exist as the government wont jeopardize the living of the taxi-driver-complaining uncles.

    Also, I notice a lot new SF based AI companies have started establishing their offices in Singapore too. Sierra, and Fireworks coming to my mind. As government plays a huge part in Singapore, I guess, government noticing these as necessary investments for the future of Singapore.

  • cranky908canuck 1 hour ago
    Must be early in the process, most if not all the photos and graphics where the driving side is visible show North American side driving.
    • goatsi 47 minutes ago
      They are apparently up to two years out from carrying passengers

      "Waymo said it will introduce its fully autonomous, all-electric ride-hailing service in Singapore via the Waymo app by 2028.

      An initial fleet of all-electric Jaguar I-PACE vehicles is expected to arrive in the coming months, it said.

      Mapping and validation activities are scheduled for 2027, with trained autonomous specialists conducting initial manual driving to adapt the Waymo Driver to local road geometry, monsoon weather patterns, and more. "

      https://mothership.sg/2026/09/waymo-self-driving-cars-singap...

    • vineyardmike 38 minutes ago
      What do you mean? There’s very few images of a car driving, but the roads seem to be correct. Some of the images are definitely generic marketing copy and not Singapore specific, but it seems fairly obvious which ones.

      Unless you mean the steering wheel is on the wrong side, but that seems like it wouldn’t matter for an autonomous vehicle.

  • vachina 36 minutes ago
    This thing is DOA if it only does predetermined route, which I think is what's going to happen.
    • danpalmer 24 minutes ago
      Why do you think that? Waymo hasn't done that anywhere else.