7 comments

  • noworld 27 minutes ago
    Do they only fine American companies in Europe?
  • bobmarleybiceps 10 minutes ago
    it's depressing how small google's / meta's fines are. should be a % of revenue or total stock valuation or something.
    • autoexec 3 minutes ago
      That % should increase substantially with each violation too. It's hard to make fines hurt when the corporation you want to punish has more money than most countries.
  • john_strinlai 1 hour ago
    for perspective, €403M = ~30 hours of net income, or ~10 hours of revenue (based on 2025 numbers, current exchange rates).
    • jiggawatts 54 minutes ago
      There was a lot of noise a few years back about Meta getting billion-euro fines over GDPR violations.

      I looked it up: they paid almost none of the fines.

      If you get a ticket from a speed camera, the government will garnish your wages if you don’t pay the fine. For trillion dollar organisations payment is apparently optional.

  • fintechjock 25 minutes ago
    The EU seems to live in a world all on its own. They can’t fine enough to actually change the behavior of big companies, but they can fine enough to kill their own startup culture.

    I don’t feel bad for them anymore. Their voters seem to be fine with this status quo. And I get why other countries see these fines as trying to raise taxes by other means because it hasn’t and won’t change anything.

    • autoexec 18 minutes ago
      > They can’t fine enough to actually change the behavior of big companies

      Of course they can fine enough. They just don't, which is why you see companies get fined again and again profiting from each violation.

      The real issue is that fines are hard to set against companies with more money than they could ever need. What we need is for more CEOs to go to prison, but that's hard to do when the company's CEO is a citizen of another country.

    • chrisjj 7 minutes ago
      [delayed]
    • sam345 20 minutes ago
      Exactly
  • tempodox 1 hour ago
    They need to multiply by 100 to move that fine out of “cost of doing business” range.
    • autoexec 13 minutes ago
      They should multiply by 100 and then by another 100 with each violation. That'd help prevent companies from racking up fine after fine after fine. The real solution is to lock executives behind bars, but if the CEO is a citizen of another country you're kind of stuck with fines and bans
    • ocdtrekkie 44 minutes ago
      They just need to ban these companies from operating in their countries. They are fundamentally burdens on society run by bad people.

      Your best case scenario with fines is getting them into the narrow definition of compliance just until a new "innovation" gives them a different way to conduct the same abuse while evading the letter of previous judgments.

      • autoexec 8 minutes ago
        This works best when you've got the ability to opt out of using those companies. If there's no meaningful replacement for a company's services or the entire internet is infested by it to the point where it's unavoidable a ban isn't going to do much good.

        What would a ban on Google look like if people still want to email others using gmail accounts, watch youtube, or use android devices? What would a ban on cloudflare look like when all of your nation's traffic passes through them? One way or another these companies will end up with vast amounts of your people's data and the EU should be able to hold them accountable somehow for holding, selling, or using it in ways that violate their laws. Fines are pretty much the only lever they have to pull.

    • mistrial9 1 hour ago
      there might be an oversight component of the settlement that is not prominent in the press releases
  • scottyah 42 minutes ago
    Oh geez, GDPR again. Does this mean I'll have to close out a popup every time I open Google Maps or do a search?
    • contravariant 40 minutes ago
      If you're not doing so already then you seem to have already agreed to let Google do quite a lot of things with your data.
  • type0 41 minutes ago
    It's a slap on the wrist, with a feather