Excel now supports multiple values in a single cell

(techcommunity.microsoft.com)

28 points | by luispa 2 hours ago

10 comments

  • lordnacho 25 minutes ago
    Users might see it as a good thing to have yet another feature, but this sort of type-softness is why Excel is bad. In general having every feature of a bad thing, you need constraints to design things, to have idioms.

    Making everything flexible is what allows you to make spaghetti that nobody understands.

    • seemaze 4 minutes ago
      Microsoft is actively harming the laypersons comprehension of their data with 'features' such as this.

      Reasoning about the basic shape of data with real estate managers using the Btrieve[0] database on DOS (and then XP) in years gone by was noticeably more straight forward than wrangling the monolithic excel monstrosities encountered today.

      [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrieve

    • qubex 7 minutes ago
      I shall embark upon a quest, and the quest’s object shall be thus: to define multiple lambdas within a list, and thereupon, to make cells downstream depend upon the lamda’s, and to make them in turn become lists or values, and so on, until the whole thing breaks.
  • qubex 13 minutes ago
    The way to do mathematics on computers is via a CAS such as Mathematica. This is misguided pornography. Unfortunately as such it shall do what its implementers intended: for a while embrace, and if not extend, embolden.

    And yes, I know Wolfram Language is proprietary too, and, yes, I know Stephen Wolfram is a massive tool, and yes, I know Mathematica licenses are expensive, and yes, I am aware of probably all the criticisms you can level my way and at it and then some in various permutations thereof, but heavens, at least it isn’t this dissolute disaster otherwise known as Excel, where “numbers have a place” but they don’t need to be numbers, and they don’t need to be in a place or have a place, but they break silently whilst you run your hedge fund.

    EDIT: As soon as I get my hands on this monstrosity I shall embark upon a voyage to define several lambdas within the same cell as a list, and then make other cells depend upon it, and their type too, to see how far I can push this thing until it breaks.

    • Sharlin 5 minutes ago
      I'm sure someone has already coined a law something like this:

      The use of Excel expands until it fills the space of all use cases.

  • shakna 9 minutes ago
    Oh great. More stuff to break the two decade piplelines in the poorly maintained VBA-scripted and now AI-infested sheets that control businesses.
  • bnj 9 minutes ago
    I’ve recently been experimenting with OnlyOffice as a non-excel alternative that can still support a broad formula set and I’ve been really pleasantly surprised. I want to be able to use an open source spreadsheet system and onlyoffice is surprisingly robust.
    • Xirdus 2 minutes ago
      Are you familiar with LibreOffice? Are there any advantages that OnlyOffice has over other open source spreadsheets?
  • olav 17 minutes ago
    Treesheets had this for over 15 years now. https://strlen.com/treesheets/
    • qubex 8 minutes ago
      And Lotus Improv ‘solved’ spreadsheets about thirty-five years ago. So?
  • infogulch 31 minutes ago
    About time! Should have done this from the start instead of spill. That and being able to index into the multiple values in a cell.
  • oniony 25 minutes ago
    Weird, because I remember a job where we had arrays in Excel cells back in 2008.
  • pavel_lishin 25 minutes ago
    But can I use multiple slurp juices on a single cell?
  • sublinear 40 minutes ago
    > Throughout Excel's 40-year history, you've only been able to put one value per cell. In this announcement, we're excited to share how that's changing with the release of lists, arrays in cells, and nested arrays, initially to Microsoft Excel for Windows and Mac Beta Channels.

    This seems like something I'd expect to already exist in Excel, but the way it's being presented makes it sound like they want to murder Excel.

    Would anyone be shocked to find out that I've been smuggling JSON in spreadsheets for a long long time and regret nothing?

  • netsharc 42 minutes ago
    Hah, AI-written summary? (Using Buzzfeed's 1-sentence-per-paragraph-for-fifth-grade-reading-skills style). The author is "msexcel, Bronze Contributor", and if I click the username I get a "Cannot find current user" (1).

    Anyway, adding an extra dimension on a 2-dimensional spreadsheet (rows, columns, and now depth)? Good luck with that.

    (1) OK it breaks for all usernames, I guess because it's Microslop...