7 comments

  • anta40 14 minutes ago
    >> How does Crowd Detect estimate occupancy? >> It detects the number of nearby iOS devices in a property and compares it to your defined threshold. If the count is exceeded, Minut sends an alert.

    OK so Android users are safe, then. Woohoo!

  • alexpotato 10 minutes ago
    Wouldn't this be possible with a NUC/RaspberryPi and a bluetooth adapter?

    e.g. if you suddenly start seeing tons of beacons above the historical maximum, that's a good indicator.

    (Not trying to be "dropbox is just rsync", just commenting on the iOS only limitation)

    • tgsovlerkhgsel 2 minutes ago
      Of course, but most AirBnB hosts want a product, not a project.
  • cube00 17 minutes ago
    Interesting that it can only count iOS devices considering Apple is more privacy focused. What's the secret sauce that prevents Android phones being counted in the same way?

    I would have thought Android's constant Wi-Fi scanning that Google uses for improving their indoor location services would be an easy give away.

    • groby_b 15 minutes ago
      None of the developers ever saw one, or they firmly believe focusing on iOS makes the product more 'luxe'
  • buggeryorkshire 2 minutes ago
    You have to get the guests to install an app? Hell no that won't work.
  • wildzzz 23 minutes ago
    I'd much prefer this over a host slapping up cameras everywhere.

    To anyone wanting to throw parties at an airbnb, switch to Android!

  • username_my1 20 minutes ago
    wasn't there an algo developed that would use wifi signal as a way to detect humans / movements even behind walls.

    I imagine that would be a neater solution. if all what you need is a wifi receiver.

    • stingraycharles 14 minutes ago
      Absolutely, maybe 15 years ago, and it was / is used by shops to detect recurring visitors and get a better understanding of their behavior.

      It’s also why anonymization of wifi started being pushed by Apple et al, which still does provide a stable client id but that’s only being broadcast as part of the DHCP handshake, which cannot be used here.

    • nickorlow 10 minutes ago
      yes -- I think xfinity uses it to implement this: https://www.xfinity.com/hub/smart-home/wifi-motion
  • c-linkage 26 minutes ago
    Works only with iOS. I guess only people with iPhones rent houses for parties?
    • wildzzz 2 minutes ago
      I'm guessing it's because iPhones are easier to characterize over dozens of different android MAC address prefixes.

      But with MAC address randomization, I don't recall Apple doing anything different than other vendors so not sure what they are detecting that an Android wouldn't reveal as well.

    • varjag 12 minutes ago
      Green text ppl aren't getting invited