9 comments

  • peri-cl 13 minutes ago
    El Pais is reporting they think it was a controller error,

    https://elpais.com/espana/2026-10-28/por-que-han-chocado-dos...

    An automated system of some kind[*] had malfunctioned earlier this morning, so they working under entirely human operation.

    [*] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linienzugbeeinflussung ("LZB")

  • Scaled 53 minutes ago
    Article is completely pay walled; please consider deleting and reposting with a readable source.
    • Angostura 1 minute ago
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cv1j309d4g98t - available to me - I'm not sure how accessible the BBC news is now to those elsewhere?
    • gregoriol 27 minutes ago
      The criteria shouldn't be paid or not, it should be quality or slop.
    • aaron695 10 minutes ago
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    • watwut 37 minutes ago
      Considering how much tech industry feeds, steals and takes advantage of others, this "no paid resources" meme stopped to sound reasonable a while ago.

      Journalists who actually do work that feeds our AI should be paid and their paid resources should be linked.

      • 1dom 21 minutes ago
        This is public news. There should be free resources available. They should be the resources published here.

        Nobody's saying journalists shouldn't be paid. But that doesn't mean all public access to public news should be paywalled.

  • Frieren 47 minutes ago
    https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20261028-two-high-speed-t...

    As of writing the article says 10. Other sources, sadly, indicate up to 39.

  • jsrozner 8 minutes ago
    https://www.reuters.com/world/two-high-speed-trains-rear-end...

    Says the Spanish train crash in Jan of this year that killed 46 was the "same operators on the same line."

    • Maken 2 minutes ago
      Both accidents involved Iryo, a Italian operator that started running high speed trains on Spain a few years ago. Given how small their fleet is, it's weird that they have been involved in every recent accident, but at least the Adamuz one was clearly the fault of the tracks and not the trains.
    • vvillena 1 minute ago
      The train operators do not seem to be a factor in either incident. Still too early to know what happened today, but the first findings point to an entirely different type of incident.
  • stevefan1999 6 minutes ago
    Just a few days ago Spain is still in riot mode. The next protest is going to be on 31th October apparently.

    This is gonna add fuel to the fire, and as I lived in East Asia (Hong Kong to be specific) I'm kind of curious why it all happened around the eurozone lately.

    France, Albania, Belgium, Spain, Greece, UK and Serbia recently (although it is not eurozone but closely related anyway as part of the great Balkans). What's left? Germany and Poland I guess?

    Anyhow it really reminds me of the First World War

    • Angostura 3 minutes ago
      I can't see why you would think a train crash would "add fuel to the fire"
  • Foobar8568 38 minutes ago
    It feels like every few years there is such collision in Spain :-/
  • qeternity 38 minutes ago
    There is something deeply broken with Spanish rail.
    • aarroyoc 24 minutes ago
      The Adamuz train crash was a maintenance issue, or lack of checks after the maintenance jobs, as some sources say that part of the line was very recently renewed. Today's crash seems to be a human failure from ADIF train control.
      • Maken 12 minutes ago
        It's also a maintenance issue. The automatic control systems were offline and that's why they were manually controlling the trains.
        • Freak_NL 7 minutes ago
          Which is a valid fallback, but only with lower speeds. If someone made the call to go manual and continue at speeds over 30 km/h…
      • bombcar 17 minutes ago
        This one is the kind of thing that's not supposed to be able to even happen (one train running into the back of another) if positive train control is implemented properly.

        People rag on the USA refusing to allow higher speeds without PTC but their system is very simple and it works (it throws the train into emergency if it passes a red signal by physically knocking out the air).

        • jiwidi 15 minutes ago
          Exactly, this can't happen. You need to put measures on this.

          Both the maintenance issue and bad systems that lead to human error creating this crash need to be taken responsability by the public system and fix them.

          • bombcar 6 minutes ago
            Apparently they have the automated systems, but they were not working, so they were under human operating rules.

            Which, in the USA at least, severely limits speed you're allowed to use (because once the only thing between you and gory death is a human, eventually that human makes a mistake).

  • jiwidi 16 minutes ago
    Another one.

    The public minister of transport is still on his chair after the last ones. No responsability admited and blaming the far right for attacking him with media.

    Is amazing how the current politic scene at spain has shittified, they get away with everything and ppl will still clap for them.

  • Markoff 19 minutes ago
    more like 46 dead already

    so much for European safety, now compare it to volumes on Chinese HSR and number of deaths there compared to Spain

    edit: inconvenient truth for downvoters?

    50 according one of the biggesr Spanish newspapers, just open the homepage, you can read 50 even in Spanish

    https://www.abc.es

    • _heimdall 8 minutes ago
      No you likely got downvotes for claiming the yet to be known number of deaths.

      I know there have been other Spanish train crashes in recent years but does you're pointing to all of Europe. Source?

    • bflesch 5 minutes ago
      Don't forget that several countries such as russia are waging hybrid warfare against the EU, there have been frequent sabotage acts against rail lines and cargo shipments. China is currently not targeted by russian hybrid warfare, and the US does not have a functional high speed rail system at all.